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senator tom harkin of iowa said on my radio show today without meaningful filibuster reform, it could be a rough second term for president obama. >> i said to obama one time we were in iowa, the night before the election, he was in iowa, the night before the election, i said to him, i said, look, i want some of your time after the election. he said sure, what about? filibuster. i said you get reelected, if you get reelected and we don't change the filibuster rules in the senate, you might as well take a four-year vacation, because you won't get anything done. >> senator harkin also told me about the so-called 41 rule that would require 41 republicans to vote in order to maintain a filibuster instead of requiring the majority party to find 60 votes to break one. folks, 60 votes, it isn't going to happen in the senate. not in this political climate. senator reid had included the 41 rule in his proposal, but politico reported late tonight he dropped the rule after talks with mcconnell. now, this is just coming to me right now. my head is about to explode on live television. how many elec
senator tom harkin of iowa said on my radio show today without meaningful filibuster reform, it could be a rough second term for president obama. >> i said to obama one time we were in iowa, the night before the election, he was in iowa, the night before the election, i said to him, i said, look, i want some of your time after the election. he said sure, what about? filibuster. i said you get reelected, if you get reelected and we don't change the filibuster rules in the senate, you might...
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obama reportedly also wants same-sex couples to benefit from immigration reforms by recognizing them as families in any new law. and guess who thought that was a bad idea. >> the that, to me, is a red flag that frankly we will address in time. we need to get broad consensus over on our proposal to start with and there are a number of very difficult issues we have to resolve. >> john: senator mccain's long-time companion senator lindsey graham liked including same-sex couples even less. senator graham told reporters and i quote "why don't we just put legalized abortion in there and round it all out." >> john: well, that's sane. for more on the about's speech and the future of comprehensive reform, i'm joined by eliseo medina international secretary treasurer for the service employees international union. he was in attendance for the president's speech today in nevada. good evening. how are you sir? >> i'm doing fine, john. how are you? >> john: terrific. great to have you here. was president obama right? has the time come for immigration reform or are both sides posturing for their vo
obama reportedly also wants same-sex couples to benefit from immigration reforms by recognizing them as families in any new law. and guess who thought that was a bad idea. >> the that, to me, is a red flag that frankly we will address in time. we need to get broad consensus over on our proposal to start with and there are a number of very difficult issues we have to resolve. >> john: senator mccain's long-time companion senator lindsey graham liked including same-sex couples even...
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today president obama unveiled his vision for immigration reform. his vision for a nation that gives people the rights they deserve. that's what the election was all about. that's what the president promised in his inaugural address. that's why millions of americans said se on election day. the truth is immigrant rights are civil rights. this is not an issue that should divide us. and the president made that point today. >> it's easy sometimes for the discussion to take on a feeling of us versus them. and when that happens, a lot of folks forget that most of us used to be them. we forget that. [ applause ] >> it's important for us to remember our history. unless you're one of the first americans you came from some place else. somebody brought you. >> you came from some place else. somebody brought you here. that's the american story. that's what this debate has been about. >> all those folks before they were us, they were them. and when each new wave of immigrants arrived, they faced resistance from those who were already here. they faced hardship.
today president obama unveiled his vision for immigration reform. his vision for a nation that gives people the rights they deserve. that's what the election was all about. that's what the president promised in his inaugural address. that's why millions of americans said se on election day. the truth is immigrant rights are civil rights. this is not an issue that should divide us. and the president made that point today. >> it's easy sometimes for the discussion to take on a feeling of us...
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president obama is urging using his bully pulpit to make sure there is an urgency to get real reform done. >> the foundation for bipartisan action is already in place. and if congress is unable to move forward in a timely fashion, i will send up a bill based on my proposal and insist that they vote on it right away. >> the details of the president's own plan for citizenship are supported by mainstream america. >> we have to lay out a path, a process that includes passing a background check, paying taxes, paying a penalty, learning english, and then going to the back of the line behind all the folks who are trying to come here legally. that's only fair. >> and i'll have commentary on that in a moment. i'm not all on board with it. it sounds good, but the path to earn citizenship has a lot of supporters in congress. in fact, it's the same path outlined by the group of senators. president obama's plan has a few more specifics. the path to citizenship is not contingent on meeting security triggers like additional border security and unmanned drones. it calls for improvements to immigrati
president obama is urging using his bully pulpit to make sure there is an urgency to get real reform done. >> the foundation for bipartisan action is already in place. and if congress is unable to move forward in a timely fashion, i will send up a bill based on my proposal and insist that they vote on it right away. >> the details of the president's own plan for citizenship are supported by mainstream america. >> we have to lay out a path, a process that includes passing a...
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to announce his immigration reform plan said to be more liberal than the senate effort. our first read team calls that reporting outdated, writing, that it had the bipartisan senators not acted yesterday, you likely would have seen obama offer his own plan. but the senators did act and their plan is the plan. the last thing the white house wants to do is blow up this fragile coalition. congressman mario diaz balart out of florida. thank you for your time. >> great pleasure being here. >> absolutely. first let me get your thoughts on the likelihood of this deal being reached. we now know from the white house, the president will give the remarks within the hour he basically is in line with the principles that were proposed by the bipartisan group and if there's dissession or divide, what is it? >> well, remember what the senators did and glad they did that, put together principles and yet to see from the senate language. us in the house trying for years to have the legislative language and should have that relatively soon. i don't think, though, there's a lot of difference
to announce his immigration reform plan said to be more liberal than the senate effort. our first read team calls that reporting outdated, writing, that it had the bipartisan senators not acted yesterday, you likely would have seen obama offer his own plan. but the senators did act and their plan is the plan. the last thing the white house wants to do is blow up this fragile coalition. congressman mario diaz balart out of florida. thank you for your time. >> great pleasure being here....
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as we discussed at the top of the program, immigration reform coming up quickly. will republicans support it? and the 60 minutes interview last night with the president and the secretary of state joining us from austin, texas, fox news analyst karl rove. let's take immigration first. what is your advice to republicans on that? >> well, i think marco rubio laid out an excellent set of principles that looks like many of them, most of them have been embodied in this bipartisan 8-member senate panel republicans ought to give it a we clear strong look as you saw from your interview with marco unionio recently it emphasizes strong border security. a guest worker program and a fair but tough resolution of the issue of the people here already illegally. >> bill: generally speaking, i had no beef with senator rubio's plan and i hope they get something together. they are aren't as i addressed with juan williams and mary katharine ham. really coming to gripsz with one of the severe problems. you are going to have a lot of new americans here. you are going to have 12 million
as we discussed at the top of the program, immigration reform coming up quickly. will republicans support it? and the 60 minutes interview last night with the president and the secretary of state joining us from austin, texas, fox news analyst karl rove. let's take immigration first. what is your advice to republicans on that? >> well, i think marco rubio laid out an excellent set of principles that looks like many of them, most of them have been embodied in this bipartisan 8-member...
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. >> bill: why is the american press so infatuated with barack obama and hillary clinton? we will try to find that out. later big immigration debated will republicans spearhead reform to try to get on the >> bill: joining us from washington sally quinn. editor of "the washington post" on faith section. judith miller fox news analyst. i understand you just talked to steve kroft, correct? >> i did. >> bill: he said? >> he said the only constraint on that interview, there were no conditions, even though the white house approached him, the only limitation was one of time he said he knew he only had 30 minutes. he could concentrate either on relationship between former rivals and now partners and now admirers on each other or he could concentrate on foreign policy. she had just testified on the hill. spent hours testifying. he didn't think he was going to be able to advance that story so he chose to concentrate on the relationship. >> bill: do you think that was wise decision in hindsight after looking at the interview. >> i'm not interested in their relationship. >> did you kn
. >> bill: why is the american press so infatuated with barack obama and hillary clinton? we will try to find that out. later big immigration debated will republicans spearhead reform to try to get on the >> bill: joining us from washington sally quinn. editor of "the washington post" on faith section. judith miller fox news analyst. i understand you just talked to steve kroft, correct? >> i did. >> bill: he said? >> he said the only constraint on that...
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it appears president obama could not reign in the ego and took up immigration reform in a speech that members of the congressional hispanic caucus asked him not to give. republican congressman balart saying of obama's now intention to step on the work of those senators, quote, i think that would poisen the water. democratic congressman also skeptical saying, "the last thing you want is to inject, even from a perception point of view, the partisanship or gamesmanship. with nothing of substance to offer, the president threatened to blow up the bipartisan process by offering a bill bearing his name. >> if congress is unable to move forward in a timely fashion, i will send up a bill based on my proposal, and insist they vote on it right away. lou: there is little chance that the president could successfully insist that the house do anything of the kind. president obama went on to suggest that under his watch, crossings of illegal imgrants in the southwest border have slowed. >> now, during my first term, we took steps to try to patch up some of the worst cracks in the system. first, we st
it appears president obama could not reign in the ego and took up immigration reform in a speech that members of the congressional hispanic caucus asked him not to give. republican congressman balart saying of obama's now intention to step on the work of those senators, quote, i think that would poisen the water. democratic congressman also skeptical saying, "the last thing you want is to inject, even from a perception point of view, the partisanship or gamesmanship. with nothing of...
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. >>> president obama pushes hard on gun control and immigration reform and the passing of an american icon. >>> and one of the biggest adrenaline rushes anywhere. very good morning. we start with a hostage standoff in alabama involving a 5-year-old boy and a suspected killer. a police source close to the investigation described him as a 6 a-year-old jimmy lee dike. they are holed up in a tornado bunker. officials have been able to get merchandi medicine to the boy but they are not saying much more. this started tuesday. the man shot and killed the driver and took the young boy hostage. more details as they emerge. >>> a storm system raked its way across the southeast wednesday and is now making its way north. two people lost their lives in georgia and tennessee. many lost their homes. tens of thousands were left without power. nbc's kurt gregory has more for us. >> reporter: wicked winds whipped through charlotte, north carolina, as rain drenched the queen city. part of a nasty storm system marching across the southeast on wednesday. that same system spawned a massive funnel cloud in
. >>> president obama pushes hard on gun control and immigration reform and the passing of an american icon. >>> and one of the biggest adrenaline rushes anywhere. very good morning. we start with a hostage standoff in alabama involving a 5-year-old boy and a suspected killer. a police source close to the investigation described him as a 6 a-year-old jimmy lee dike. they are holed up in a tornado bunker. officials have been able to get merchandi medicine to the boy but they...
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he says if obama pushes a fast pass to legalization above other reform priorities, he could fracture the coalition which may be the point. the idea that the president wants us to fall apart for republicans for his own political -- >> i think -- >> for his next election campaign? >> exactly. >> for hillary in 2016. >> that's exactly right. on the equality piece, i think the president has made clear that he is for equality for all citizens. when you are for, it you have to be for it across the board, and that's why it's in the bill. i think it's just -- i know it's cynical to say about washington, but it's just the right policy and the right thing to do, and i think that's why the president comes to it that way. it will be interesting to see what pieces of this get coupled together, though. the security piece, border security and enforcement, the president has already done a lot. >> yes. to the ayre of many in the latin community. >> if there were a democratic primary this time around, i think people would have talked a lot about deportations and how much enforcement there was. there's
he says if obama pushes a fast pass to legalization above other reform priorities, he could fracture the coalition which may be the point. the idea that the president wants us to fall apart for republicans for his own political -- >> i think -- >> for his next election campaign? >> exactly. >> for hillary in 2016. >> that's exactly right. on the equality piece, i think the president has made clear that he is for equality for all citizens. when you are for, it you...
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. >> president obama talking about immigration reform today in las vegas. today in washington, republicans were gently reminded that when they talk about immigration, they should try to avoid favorite republican phrases like, for example, "send them all back" or "electric fence" or "anchor baby." it is also suggested gently, so gently, that republicans should avoid using the word "illegals" or "aliens" and should not, quote, characterize all hispanics as undocumented. this memo was first published today by "the hill" newspaper. it is suggested messaging do's and don'ts for republicans. it was put out by the republican latino outreach group co-chaired by jeb bush, a group that is taking on the hard task of taking the panic out of hispanic in republicanville. joining us now is steve schmidt, senior strategist for mccain/palin in '08 and msnbc contributor. steve, it's great to see you. thanks for being here. >> thank you, rachel. >> if the advice has to start with stop saying "send them all back" and "anchor babies", does that mean that we are beyond this leve
. >> president obama talking about immigration reform today in las vegas. today in washington, republicans were gently reminded that when they talk about immigration, they should try to avoid favorite republican phrases like, for example, "send them all back" or "electric fence" or "anchor baby." it is also suggested gently, so gently, that republicans should avoid using the word "illegals" or "aliens" and should not, quote, characterize...
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exactly one week after president obama called immigration reform a top priority, the issue was cornering momentum in a rare show of bipartisan support. >> there is more political risk in opposing immigration reform began supporting it. >> this is consistent with their country's tradition of being a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. >> eight leading republican and democratic senators are proposing an immigration overhaul. it would create a path to a system -- path to citizenship. reform the legal immigration system to keep families together, " ward green cards to immigrants who obtain advanced degrees at american universities. allow more low-skilled workers to enter the country for hard to fill jobs. >> there is no reason to delay. >> the proposal mirrors the president's priorities. >> the very important effort is about engaging the american people. >> advocates are pressuring lawmakers to act. >> we now the momentum is on our side. >> that momentum comes after a tough reaction -- election reality. he won more than 70% of the latino vote. even with bipartisan support, passing the
exactly one week after president obama called immigration reform a top priority, the issue was cornering momentum in a rare show of bipartisan support. >> there is more political risk in opposing immigration reform began supporting it. >> this is consistent with their country's tradition of being a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. >> eight leading republican and democratic senators are proposing an immigration overhaul. it would create a path to a system -- path to...
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. >> is this finally the year for immigration reform? president obama sits down with jose diaz bullart. >> i don't think that it should take many, many months. i think this is something that we should be able to get done certainly this year, and i would like to see if we can get it done sooner. >> in newtown parents of the young victims demand stricter gun laws. >> i remember looking at him in his casket and holing his hands. no parent should hold this memory of their child. >> the liberty of any person to own a military style assault weapon and a high capacity magazine and keep them in their home is second to the right of my son to his life. >> bidding farewell. john kerry's emotional good-bye to the senate. >> standing here at this desk that once belonged -- at this desk that once belonged to president kennedy and to ted kennedy, i can't help but be reminded that even our nation's greatest leaders and all the rest of us are merely temporary workers. >> plus, my interview with former vice president al gore. >> from the real threat about
. >> is this finally the year for immigration reform? president obama sits down with jose diaz bullart. >> i don't think that it should take many, many months. i think this is something that we should be able to get done certainly this year, and i would like to see if we can get it done sooner. >> in newtown parents of the young victims demand stricter gun laws. >> i remember looking at him in his casket and holing his hands. no parent should hold this memory of their...
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president obama has said immigration reform is at the top of his second term agenda. today his spokesman jay carney welcomed the senate agreement. >> this is a big deal. this is an important development. this is in keeping with the principles the president has been espousing for a long time, in keeping with bipartisan efforts in the past, and with the effort this president believes has to end in a law that he can sign. >> ifill: mr. obama is scheduled to unveil his own ideas on immigration reform tomorrow in las vegas. >> woodruff: so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin, thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a chance to go through a criminal background check to make c
president obama has said immigration reform is at the top of his second term agenda. today his spokesman jay carney welcomed the senate agreement. >> this is a big deal. this is an important development. this is in keeping with the principles the president has been espousing for a long time, in keeping with bipartisan efforts in the past, and with the effort this president believes has to end in a law that he can sign. >> ifill: mr. obama is scheduled to unveil his own ideas on...
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that's why we need comprehensive immigration reform. host: president obama speaking yesterday. secretary gutierrez, the wall street journal has a piece today called "obama's immigrationwere there warning signs in with the president said? "guest: he did have this threat of his own bill and things like but there's no question that we need low-skilled workers and we need high skilled workers. we have to really sell on what -- settle on what it's temporary, for temporary workers there must be some market flexibility. may have someone here on a temporary basis but to as great leadership skills. the employer wants to promote them. it's unfortunate the then that they have to go back because they're only temporary. so i think there has to be simplex ability in the system. these issues you mentioned, they are so close that this is the kind of compromise that we need. if the president has to compromise on a guest worker program or maybe having some triggers for the border before we start allowing people to get in line for green card, those should be easy things to compromise. the importa
that's why we need comprehensive immigration reform. host: president obama speaking yesterday. secretary gutierrez, the wall street journal has a piece today called "obama's immigrationwere there warning signs in with the president said? "guest: he did have this threat of his own bill and things like but there's no question that we need low-skilled workers and we need high skilled workers. we have to really sell on what -- settle on what it's temporary, for temporary workers there...
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president obama has said immigration reform is at the top of his second term agenda. today his spokesman jay carney welcomed the senate agreement. >> this is a big deal. this is an important development. this is in keeping with the principles the president has been espousing for a long time in keeping with bipartisan efforts in the past, and with the effort this president believes has to end in a law that he can sign. >> ifill: mr. obama is scheduled to unveil his own ideas on immigration reform tomorrow in las vegas. >> woodruff: so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a chance to go through a criminal background check to make cer
president obama has said immigration reform is at the top of his second term agenda. today his spokesman jay carney welcomed the senate agreement. >> this is a big deal. this is an important development. this is in keeping with the principles the president has been espousing for a long time in keeping with bipartisan efforts in the past, and with the effort this president believes has to end in a law that he can sign. >> ifill: mr. obama is scheduled to unveil his own ideas on...
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all of this a day before president obama is set to release his own immigration reform proposal. he'll lay out his plan in nevada tomorrow. let's talk about it right now. gloria borger, cornell belcher, and margaret hoover. gloria, let me start with you. what is so different this time around for republicans? is it simply the reality of november's election? >> yeah, they're worried about their own survival as a political party. one way to survive as a party is to broaden your base and not remain hostage to a single part of it. i think that has been the problem for the republican party. when you talk about john mccain, when john mccain was challenged from the right in 2010, when he was running for re-election to the senate, he became much more conservative on immigration policy. now i think he's sort of unshackled and he's back to the position that he was in in 2005 and 2007. i mean, you know, i spent a lot of time with him on that straight talk express when he was running for the presidency in 2007. and i remember him telling me that he was stunned at the vitriolic reaction within
all of this a day before president obama is set to release his own immigration reform proposal. he'll lay out his plan in nevada tomorrow. let's talk about it right now. gloria borger, cornell belcher, and margaret hoover. gloria, let me start with you. what is so different this time around for republicans? is it simply the reality of november's election? >> yeah, they're worried about their own survival as a political party. one way to survive as a party is to broaden your base and not...
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you are looking live at the senate floor where they just voted for a watered down filibuster reform deal. harry reid caved to republicans and liberals are not happy this night. larry cohen of the communication workers of america is outraged and he is here with reaction and my commentary. stay with us. [ female announcer ] going to sleep may be easy, but when you wake up in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing zolpidem, such as ambien. allergic reactions such as shortness of breath or swelling of your tongue or throat may occur and may be fatal. intermezzo should not be taken if you have taken another sleep medicine at bedtime or in the middle of the night or drank alcohol
you are looking live at the senate floor where they just voted for a watered down filibuster reform deal. harry reid caved to republicans and liberals are not happy this night. larry cohen of the communication workers of america is outraged and he is here with reaction and my commentary. stay with us. [ female announcer ] going to sleep may be easy, but when you wake up in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only...
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. >> house speaker john boehner says president obama wants to shove the gop into the dustbin of history. richard wolffe joins me for that. you are looking live at the senate floor where they just voted for a watered down filibuster reform deal. harry reid caved to republicans and liberals are not happy this night. larry cohen of the communication workers of america is outraged and he is here with reaction and my commentary. stay with us. at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello? ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." house speaker john boehner is whining about president obama getting the upper hand. >> and given what we heard yesterday about the president's vision for his second term, it's pretty clear to me that -- it should be clear to all of you that he knows he can't do any of that as long as the house is controlled by republicans. and so we're expecting here over the next 22 months to be t
. >> house speaker john boehner says president obama wants to shove the gop into the dustbin of history. richard wolffe joins me for that. you are looking live at the senate floor where they just voted for a watered down filibuster reform deal. harry reid caved to republicans and liberals are not happy this night. larry cohen of the communication workers of america is outraged and he is here with reaction and my commentary. stay with us. at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a...
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president obama cut over 70% of the latino vote. spoke about the immigration reform and expects to do so tomorrow during a speech in las vegas bin of bipartisan push for immigration reform. thank you for joining us congressman been my pleasure to be with you. . >> characterize this bipartisan cooperation republicans are nervous that they've already alienated that growing in powerful latino vote is that true? i think a great degree has to do with that election and the consequences of it. what i should think is we may want to also say that that election could reinforce our democratic fundamental faith. democratic values. their groups of people organized to make a message for action to their votes. that is clearly why groups of immigrants across this nation are getting a response. i'm glad to see that this demand by american citizens is being addressed. we have been here before. 2005. john mccain and several other congressmen introduced bipartisan support is a proposal and i am delighted to see john f. mccain to the table because i bel
president obama cut over 70% of the latino vote. spoke about the immigration reform and expects to do so tomorrow during a speech in las vegas bin of bipartisan push for immigration reform. thank you for joining us congressman been my pleasure to be with you. . >> characterize this bipartisan cooperation republicans are nervous that they've already alienated that growing in powerful latino vote is that true? i think a great degree has to do with that election and the consequences of it....
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. >>> immigration reform has taken top priority, president obama's second term, a group of senators from both sides of the aisle are laying out the ground work for reform. the plan includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers and strengthens border security with 7 in 10 latino voters supporting obama republicans are willing to play ball. >> there is a new i think appreciation on both sides of the aisle, including maybe more importantly on the republican side of the isle. >> americans support it in poll after poll. latino voters expect it. the democrats want it. republicans need i. >> president obama heads to las vegas tomorrow to unveil his immigration reform plans. >> five things to know on this monday morning, defense questions witnesses against john leopold. on friday the judge threw out one misconduct office charge. >>> felecia barnes murder trial continues today. michael johnson is accused of killing the 16-year-old. a witness saw barnes dead body the day she went missing. >> broadway stars, writessers, producers and directors are putting together a benefit. proceeds g
. >>> immigration reform has taken top priority, president obama's second term, a group of senators from both sides of the aisle are laying out the ground work for reform. the plan includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers and strengthens border security with 7 in 10 latino voters supporting obama republicans are willing to play ball. >> there is a new i think appreciation on both sides of the aisle, including maybe more importantly on the republican side of the...
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some republicans say this move to do immigration reform ultimately won't help republicans. i think in some ways, that's true because latinos, as well as the other folks in the obama coalition, do seem to see a more activist role for the government and that's been a -- continuing to be a problem for republicans. >> but, joe, when we went and did marches in arizona, you have wholesome latino families, middle class and some even doing better than middle class, pulled over because they were automatically a suspect. so this is not about people's class and welfare. this is about people's rights. >> yes. but you know, racism is appalling. and the association of a latino with low income is ridiculous. but as nia malika says, they're reelgt in the sense not about the taker part, but they're right in the sense it's not just about immigration or respect, it's also that the latino, the emerging latino population, supports a greater role for government, a greater fairness in government, they're socially liberal after yeeshs of saying oh, they're anti-choice. latinos are the most pro-cho
some republicans say this move to do immigration reform ultimately won't help republicans. i think in some ways, that's true because latinos, as well as the other folks in the obama coalition, do seem to see a more activist role for the government and that's been a -- continuing to be a problem for republicans. >> but, joe, when we went and did marches in arizona, you have wholesome latino families, middle class and some even doing better than middle class, pulled over because they were...